Storm · Forecast to formNorth America
A new low could form northeast of San Diego on Tuesday night
Los Angeles — Could pass near Los Angeles Thu afternoon; 3 in 10 forecasts bring it within 100 mi.
Updated Mon., Sept. 28, 5:47 p.m. PDT · 91 forecast tracks from NOAA, ECMWF and Environment Canada: medium
This storm is no longer in our active list. This is its last forecast, from the Mon 28 Sep 12Z–18Z runs.
Los Angeles — Could pass near Los Angeles Thu afternoon; 3 in 10 forecasts bring it within 100 mi.
Quick answers
As of the Mon 28 Sep 12Z–18Z model runs · updated Mon., Sept. 28, 5:47 p.m. PDT
- Where will the low over California form?
- Forecasts that develop it have the centre forming about 100 miles northeast of San Diego, over California on Tuesday night. The most likely path takes it about 140 miles north of Los Angeles by Friday night.
- When will the low over California be closest to Los Angeles?
- Most likely Thursday, Oct. 1, around 2 p.m. PDT. Across the forecasts the comes between Tue 10 p.m. and Tue 5 a.m. PDT. Most forecasts pass the centre 20–150 miles east of Los Angeles.
- What is the chance it passes within 100 miles of Los Angeles?
- 27%: 3 in 10 forecasts bring the storm’s centre within 100 miles of Los Angeles. Elsewhere: San Diego 24%, Sacramento 20%, San Francisco 19%. Rain, wind and coastal flooding can reach well beyond 100 miles from the centre.
- How much rain could Los Angeles get while the low over California passes?
- From Mon 5 p.m. (when the forecast’s rain totals start) to Mon 11 a.m. PDT, the end of the forecast, the middle of NOAA’s 31 GEFS forecasts brings almost no rain or melted snow to Los Angeles; fewer than 1 in 10 bring 0.5 in. By Tue 5 p.m., when that window opens, the middle forecast has almost none yet. That is all the rain in that time, not only the low over California’s, from one model (GEFS) on a coarse grid; local official forecasts can differ. Los Angeles: rain and wind this week →
- How sure is the forecast?
- Path certainty: medium. 91 of 185 show the storm, and they on where it goes.
- Do the AI and physics models agree?
- Not yet: they differ. Chance within 100 miles of Los Angeles: AI ensembles (AIFS ENS, AIGEFS) 23%, physics ensembles (ECMWF ENS) 65%. By model: ECMWF ENS 65%, AIFS ENS 25%, AIGEFS 19%. By Thursday night the AI ensembles’ middle track is about 160 miles west of the physics ensembles’. Both take it to about 1,002 at its deepest.
- Will the low over California become a bomb cyclone?
- Unlikely. None of the 185 deepen it fast enough to count as a (a pressure fall of roughly 24 in 24 hours, adjusted for latitude).
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What we know
Where it forms. The forecasts that show it have the centre taking shape about 100 miles northeast of San Diego, over California on Tuesday night, at about 1,004 .
How sure. 91 of 185 show the storm, and they on where it goes.1
How strong. Forecasts keep its central pressure near 1,007 through Thursday. None of them turn it into a rapidly deepening .
What’s uncertain
Whether it forms. 91 of 185 develop it; the rest do not. Storms that exist only in the forecast can change a lot from run to run.
How close it comes. For Los Angeles, most forecasts put the between 20 and 150 miles away, most likely Thursday 2 p.m.
Later on. The forecasts fan out after Wednesday. By Monday morning, Oct. 5, the is about 450 miles across.2
When it arrives
When the centre passes closest to each place, earliest to latest across the forecasts. Places are ordered by the most likely time.
Rain and wind this week in San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Sacramento.
DetailsStrength, sources and the fine print
How strong it gets
Central pressure over time. The line is the middle forecast; the band holds 8 in 10 of them.
(lower is stronger)
Where the forecasts come from
| Model | Tracks | |
|---|---|---|
NOAA | 0 of 31 | 18Z arrived 2 h 45 min ago |
ECMWF | 44 of 51 | 12Z arrived 5 h 20 min ago |
ECMWF | 32 of 51 | 18Z arrived 1 h 35 min ago |
NOAA | 15 of 31 | 12Z arrived 7 h ago |
Environment Canada | 0 of 21 | 12Z arrived 8 h 50 min ago |